- posted in Guns, Loads, Optics and Gear for Varmint Hunting: I posted this in response to something Red started and then it occured to me I might just get more response if I posted it independently. On the farms I'll be calling, the farthest realistic shot would be 400 yards. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .223 Remington vs .243 Winchester ammo rounds. Our eastern coyotes are extremely tough to take down. I've loaded thousands of rounds of .223 but always used either FMJ or match hollow-point bullets, never anything designed specifically for use on varmints and game. I'm gonna be in trouble if folks find out I really don't have Tourettes . of those 3, definitely .243. im lookin at a savage i can get in either .223 .243 or 22-250, im leaning towards the .243 since they are al bolt action and if i ever want to use it on deer i have it. I would go with the 243 also 99explorer said it weight and wind resistance and it has more power its worth the ammo price...LP, I shoot a .243, but it doubles as my deer rifle as well. Look at the news reports of the S. American caravans forming in Mexico ready to rush the Border when Biden is sworn in. From small fox to northern coyotes, if you know how to coax a predator within range, it's all you'll ever need. I currently own a 7mm rem mag and a 300. wsm and i dont know if i need a 243. win or just stick with the 22-250. And more bullet choices. And more bullet choices. Couple those attributes with the fact that you can find ammunition for a .223 Remington at just about every shop that sells any ammunition at all and I’ve got to give the edge to the .223. A 22 250 is better yet but cost more to shoot. It shoots a wide variety of bullets well, has less horsepower than a 22-250, but burns about 25% less powder, also. Anything from .243 Winchester to one of the 7mms. Big-game hunters in the western states use this rifle round on mule deer and even bear. Page 2 of 3 < Prev 1 2 3 Next > Nov 29, 2018 #16 . for $5 a box for 20 223 rounds vs $30 for 20 243rds id take the 223 any day and just limit my shots to 250 and under. .223 vs .243 for first coyote gun Discussion in 'Michigan Predator Hunting' started by iawmmbones, Nov 26, 2018. I'm new to this serious varmint shooting I've noticed something reading varmint webs sites that seem curious to me. Any soft tipped or ballistic bullet should drop a coyote from a .223 with proper bullet placement. W. A .223 out to 300 yards just has a little more going for it in my experiences. .243 might be a little more expensive to shoot but its versitile and does the job. what would be the best rifle caliber for coyotes, deer I'm thinking 270, 243 or 308. Neither are acceptable for coyotes in NJ. merits of .223 vs .243 coyote rifle - 01/19/15. The .243 and the 6mm Remington are the minimum for whitetail IMHO and are pure death on varmints and coyotes. Having run both for coyotes, I did have a few runners with a .204 and the .223 but for coyotes to 300 yards, a .223 and a 55 grain Vmax is a match made in heaven. I know they are different now but I left my AR in Danang,... Well I’ve noticed that the great one D.P. I like how you can use 100 gr bullet for deer and drop down to 58 for varmints. Any thoughts? I like to multi-purpose my rifles so since .223 is too light for deer in my state that rules out that one. My favorite 6mm bullet for hunting coyotes, hogs and deer is a 105gr Amax. I was planning on getting a .243 but local store does not have any in stock. All times are GMT-5. I have a new Stag Model 6 ( 1in 8" twist) that shoots sub MOA with bullets from 40 gr to 75 gr, and even has a similar point of impact at 100 yards. I never have enjoyed being limited, so now I keep a half dozen rifles I’d call my “coyote rifle,” but more often than not, I take out a 223. I love the amazingly accurate 58g V-Max at 3700 fps for most coyote hunting. Varmageddon maxed out with Varget powder), the .223 has a 5.2” greater drop in trajectory with 255 ft-lbs less of coyote vital destruction power. Hooked On Quack REV`REND DR LUV. I have hunted coyotes most of my life and foxes.there so geared up at times I don't think they know they been shot.hunting isn't always one shot kills in my world. My wife has no trouble managing the .243 recoil and many friend's/relative's wives and kids own and use a 243 for deer hunting. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, or jacketing type. My 1/12 twist likes anything under 52gr and my 1/7 likes the MSR bullets designed for deer hunting on coyotes. Couple those attributes with the fact that you can find ammunition for a .223 Remington at just about every shop that sells any ammunition at all and I’ve got to give the edge to the .223. The .44-40’s 200-grain bullet in a Winchester factory load registers 630 … Page 1 of 4 - .243 vs .223 - posted in Coyote Hunting: Dicks is having a sale on Remington 700 for black Friday. 0. and i think if it wasn't for the ar-15 type guns, the 223 would not be as … But lately my favorite cartridge for coyotes is my 243, 105gr Nosler Ballistic tips. ammo is very cheap. Post count: 75 #1485197. Much louder than a 223. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, or j My farthest kill was a little over 400 paces with the 223 but missed a shot way out there on a dog that had already been trained not to come in to a call. It doesn't matter, just choot 'em. The .243 will never be fur friendly... the .223 if loaded lightly can be better although not the best. That’s also why it is supposed to be so good for coyotes, it goes in one side, and doesn’t come out the other, so less fur is damaged. Bullet diameter: .243 in (6.2 mm) Case length: 2.045 in (51.9 mm) Twist: 1-10, 1-8 Availability: Great I like to multi-purpose my rifles so since.223 is too light for deer in my state that rules out that one. When it comes to the 223 vs 243 recoil, you may find that hunting with a 243 may tire you out after a long day, but the 223 Remington is a faithful and easy to handle companion you’ll be glad to have by your side. What is the best 223/5.56mm bullet weight for coyotes? I don’t hunt coyotes but 50gr Hornady V-Max is supposed to be one of the best rounds if I recall correctly. Home › Forums › Hunting › Predator/Varmint Hunting ›.223 vs. .243? That’s what I use for target practice since it evaporates on impact. I was planning on getting a .243 but local store does not have any in stock. Fur is not a concern. Saiga .223 vs. .308 for coyotes? I have hunted coyotes for over 30 years, and shot a .223 for about 20 of that. I'll be reloading. How far do you intend to shoot? Caliber Battle: .223 Rem. plus im not a fan of sending a bigger faster bullet through something. Should I drive hour and Half to get .243 or should I just go to local store and get the .223 . - posted in Coyote Hunting: I plan to start hunting coyotes Monday and have both rifles brand new ready to be sighted in. it is good for killing coyotes to. During the peak of the fur market in the 1970s coyote hunters were increasingly looking to the Ruger Ranch Rifle, a semi-auto in .223 Rem. Being that the .243 has just slightly more powder capacity I see no reason why this combo shouldn't work for you. Top #1780671 - 01/05/11 04:13 PM Re: .223, 22-250, or .243 which one is better for Predators [Re: MoDOThunter] markley Die Hard Member II Registered: … Which ammo do you folks reccommend for coyotes. It was developed in 1957 for an experimental rifle known as the AR-15. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 17 of 17 Posts ... For coyotes and smaller, I would go for the .223, unless you are a long range fanatic. The 22-250 would be my choice for coyotes and anything smaller. vs. .243 Win. Thread starter #5. First Bubba I am one of the older ones (74) who dislikes reading about the MPR's and 6.5's. There is blood and a bunch of it. I will still take the 243 for prairie dogs but only for a back up. Actually, I more often just shoot them with whatever I am carrying when I encounter them. In this cartridge comparison, we are going to take a look at the 6.5 Creedmoor vs .243 Winchester. The 243 was my second coyote rifle, and I wasted a lot of my life sewing up hides because of it. .243 Winchester Doing perfect double-duty as a deer/coyote rifle, Winchester’s 6mm cartridge — based on the .308 Win. The range where I practice goes up to 300yds. I'll take the .243 for the additional bullet weight and resistance to wind drift. I have loads worked up with Sierra 85 HPBT and 87 Vmax that both provide acceptable accuracy with a slight edge going to … Vs. .22-250 Rem. is a classic Army brat. 01-30-2013, 09:10 PM . Search for: Viewing 20 posts - 1 through 20 (of 29 total) 1 2 Next. Many products featured on this site were editorially chosen. A 243 has more powder, 25 gr 223 vs ~38-40 for 243. ***Warning*** This video shows the effectiveness of the proper bullet being used on the proper game. - Hunting and Fishing News & Blog Articles - HuntPost There is a reason most successful predator hunters sight their rifles dead-on at 100 yards. They all will work. I'm looking to pick up some expanding .224" bullets to load in .223 for my 16" AR carbine for just-in-case coyote and varmint dispatching (I live on a horse ranch currently and the property is part of a large pack's range). Page 1 of 2 - Why Not .243 For Coyote? Anyone who has ever skinned a coyote knows that once that fur comes off, the actual body size of the coyote is generally small. Thoughts: .223 vs .243 for coyote hunting? Back in my early coyote hunting days I wasn't a reloader so I shot 80 grain Core Lockts. One of these is perfect for the recoil shy or light framed shooter. Author. We are excited about this comparison as both of these cartridges show tremendous versatility in both the hunting and competitive shooting worlds and not a lot of information is out there taking a look at these two cartridges stacked up side by side. Whoever told you the .243 may be a bit much for coyotes probably swears up and down by the .204! December 11, 2017 at 4:41 pm. Just about all dogs I have called in have been close enough to use a shot gun so the 223 was more than adequate enough for those shots. Here you will find hunting, fishing, and survival tips from the editors of Field and Stream, as well as recommendations from readers like yourself. Much louder than a 223. if i got the 243. win i would use it on whitetail or pronghorn as well. The .243 is like Thor's hammer on coyotes. There’s nothing wrong with Browning’s BAR or BLR in .243 Win. After deer season ends in january I plan on doing some coyote hunting. I've been hunting w/ blackpowder exclusively for a number of years now. . They will take all those low... Answers.fieldandstream.com is part of the Field & Stream Network, a division of Bonnier Corporation. With a .22-250 that coyote is dead where it stands, every time. and i think if it wasn't for the ar-15 type guns, the 223 would not be as … In this cartridge comparison, we are going to take a look at the 6.5 Creedmoor vs .243 Winchester. As far as deer hunting calibers go, the .243 is light, small and perfect for beginning deer hunters. Copyright © 2020 Outdoor Life. Posts. They have gotten brave and have been seen during the middle of the day. westcliffe01. Vs. .243 Win. I must agree with comments about the 243 from those above although I use a 223. Shot number 15 yesterday morning, 400 yards with a heavy barrel Remington 700 .222. I know there are a lot of folks who would say that's not a very good choice at all for coyotes, let alone the bigger ones they have up north in Canada. Up. Welcome to Field and Streams's Answers section. Neither are acceptable for coyotes in NJ. I have .22rf and '06, but nothing in between. if you will be hunting bigger game then deer then get the .308. the .308 will go through a coyote with ease and continue for a good distance after so BE CARE FULL WERE YOU SHOOT. There are hundreds and hundreds of guns using same ammunition I really wish that it did come down to personal preference. It also is the bomb on coyotes so each to his own I guess but for the hides the 223 is far better than the 243 if your hunting for fur... Threre aren’t many rifles more versatile than an AR with a 16’ or 18” barrel chambered in 5.56/223 from vermin to deer to … It will drive a 55-grain bullet to over 3800 fps, and that short bullet at that velocity will provide enough hydraulic shock to plant a coyote where it stands. - posted in Guns, Loads, Optics and Gear for Varmint Hunting: I posted this in response to something Red started and then it occured to me I might just get more response if I posted it independently. But you can shoot a 75g V-Max at 3400 fps for deadly accuracy out to 500 yards or so on a coyote. either. 6.5 creed is worth a look in my opinion. Page 1 of 4 - .243 vs .223 - posted in Coyote Hunting: Dicks is having a sale on Remington 700 for black Friday. Have never lost a coyote with the .223. and for the .223 i've heard of it taking down a deer but don't count it if you want success every time. Kinda new to Predator Hunting killed Coyotes on the farm but no hunting for them until just lately now hooked I want to get a new gun thinking AR narrowed down to 3 calibers 223, 22-250, and .243 wanted to get some advice on each. A 243 is a .308 case necked down to .243 I have seen the splash in my scope many times with both but the .243 has more recoil. I am planning on shooting varmint round out of each and not sure if I want to give up range of .243. Then I got into reloading and loaded Hornady 70 grain SX bullets and they worked well. I will probably get one for yotes. for some longer shots. There are days I wish I had the little extra oomph of a .243 over my .22-250. I'll come right out and say it: The .223 Remington is the most balanced predator cartridge in existence. I own an AR15 in .223, a singe shot .243 Winchester, and a Weatherby Vanguard in a .22-250 Remington. My wife has no trouble managing the .243 recoil and many friend's/relative's wives and kids own and use a 243 for deer hunting. the 243 would be less effected by wind drift then the 223. and it is a better deer/antelope/varmint gun then the 223. but as bub has said if its for coyote only go with the 22-250. i have both the 243 and 22-250,and both are great guns.myself i don't care for the 223,having had both ar-15s and bolt action rifles. By Bowhunter57, May 15, 2004 in Saiga .223. The .223 is better for extra long range shooting, i … Bottom line, I like my 243. About the mid 80s they coyote population exploded. 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